[Humanist] 29.496 tools to analyze poetry

Humanist Discussion Group willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk
Tue Nov 24 10:02:22 CET 2015


                 Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 29, No. 496.
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  [1]   From:    Bogdan Trifunovic <btrifunovic at gmail.com>                 (55)
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?

  [2]   From:    Almási Zsolt <almasi.zsolt at btk.ppke.hu>                  (27)
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?

  [3]   From:    John Simpson <john.simpson at computecanada.ca>              (17)
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?

  [4]   From:    Laura Mandell <laura.mandell at gmail.com>                   (70)
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?


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        Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:25:55 +0100
        From: Bogdan Trifunovic <btrifunovic at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?
        In-Reply-To: <20151123074410.40ED96FA3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Dear Avraham,

What you want to do (complex textual analysis on plain text, correct me if
I'm wrong) is hardly manageable without some textual encoding or text
description for contextual and logical meaning. At the moment TEI-XML
(http://www.tei-c.org/index.xml) is a choice of many researchers, because of
its long history of development, focus on text, detailed guidelines,
existing tools (editors, databases), etc.

I'm not sure that you will find any kind of software able to provide
straightforward analysis of, for instance, style or rhyming schemes in plain
text. Some level of coding must be applied in the process. For the basic
analysis (e.g. frequency, etc) Voyant Tools could be the first stop, but not
the only one.

Best regards,

Bogdan Trifunovic, PhDFaculty of "Artes Liberales"
University of Warsaw
----
Digitization Centre
Public Library Cacak, Serbia

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Humanist Discussion Group <
willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk> wrote:

>                  Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 29, No. 493.
>             Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
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>         Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 19:19:57 +0200
>         From: Avraham Roos <avrahamroos at gmail.com>
>         Subject: digital tools to analyze poetry
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Does anyone know of tools to analyze poetry?
>
> I have about 15 English translations of the same Hebrew 11th century poem
> (An an octastich [8 line poem] made up of 2 quatrains).
> I would like to perform some digital analysis in order to compare these
> looking at meter, rhyme and rhyming scheme, style, word use, etc.
>
> I tried the only online tool I could find (PAN Text Analyser) and was quite
> disappointed.
>
> --
> Avraham Roos
>
> Take a look at my Website/ Blog: http://www.tinyurl.com/JewishDH
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> >
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        Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:35:40 +0100 (CET)
        From: Almási Zsolt <almasi.zsolt at btk.ppke.hu>
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?
        In-Reply-To: <20151123074410.40ED96FA3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Dear Avraham, 

Have you tried JuxtaCommons ? I have used this online application or its downloadable version several times, and found it rather useful. 

Best regards, 
Zsolt 

Zsolt Almási PhD 

Associate professor 
Head of the English Department 
Institute of British-American Studies 
Péter Pázmány Catholic University 

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Hungary 

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Twitter: @zsalmasi 
Skype: almasizs1 
 

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        Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 08:05:06 -0800 (PST)
        From: John Simpson <john.simpson at computecanada.ca>
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?
        In-Reply-To: <20151123074410.40ED96FA3 at digitalhumanities.org>


There was a tool called “Poem Viewer” but the web page seems to be “not available”.  You can try to load it yourself at http://www.ovii.org/PoemVis/index.html

TAPoR lists a few tools but other than poem viewer it is unclear which might be what you want.  See http://tapor.ca/  and put “poetry” in the search box.

Bamboo DiRT seems to have some tools as well but again you’ll need to look through them. See http://dirtdirectory.org/

-John

John Simpson Ph.D. 

Digital Humanities Specialist 
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        Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:23:54 -0600
        From: Laura Mandell <laura.mandell at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re:  29.493 tools to analyze poetry?
        In-Reply-To: <20151123074410.40ED96FA3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Dear Avraham and all:

At the Poetess Archive, we have found that meter and other features of
poetry need to be hand encoded.  Herbert Tucker's "For Better or Verse" (http://prosody.lib.virginia.edu/) also hand-encodes meter. When I find
poetry encoded at Tucker's site, I often disagree with the metrical
analysis: that people don't agree about meter is one reason that automating
its encoding would be very difficult.

Working in conjunction with the PoetessArchive.org, Manish Chaturvedi
created a poetry visualization tool in python which I am making available
in dropbox:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgi1nab9qki1x8e/PoetryViz.zip?dl=0

Inside this dropbox folder you will find the tool itself as well as his
thesis about it.  Also in this zip file on dropbox you will find two other
folders:

codedOde
and
poems.

I developed a system for encoding the tropes, meter, sound systems, and
significant syntax variations found in poetry, using the TEI as a base code
(http://www.tei-c.org): that system is visible in the codedOde folder, and
there you will also find two TEI schemas, one for meter which is a standard
TEI schema, and one for the other three systems which are customized with
the namespace "pa."

I hope that's helpful!
Best, Laura Mandell


-- 
Laura Mandell
Director, Initiative for Digital Humanities, Media, and Culture
Professor, English
Texas A&M University
p: 979-845-8345
e: idhmc at tamu.edu
@mandellc
http://idhmc.tamu.edu





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