[Humanist] 28.80 HTML5 vs XML

Humanist Discussion Group willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk
Tue Jun 3 23:02:18 CEST 2014

                  Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 28, No. 80.
            Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
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        Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 04:16:38 +1000
        From: Desmond Schmidt <desmond.allan.schmidt at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re:  28.79 events: HTML5 and XML
        In-Reply-To: <20140602203933.9FD9D63F9 at digitalhumanities.org>

This looked like just another conference announcement, until I read the
program. When you do, you realise that this is an open discussion about
whether or not XML is now to be regarded as a "legacy" technology.
(Their words, not mine). The problem is caused by the key transformation
XML->HTML. This no longer appears to work well if the "HTML" bit is
HTML5. So it would appear that XML is no longer a convenient format for
digital humanities texts, and this inconvenience is likely to grow
greater in years to come, since HTML is now free to follow its own path.
Although this problem is not news in itself, talking about it openly, is.

The maintenance of XML tools also appears to be under threat, since the
software industry that controls them now has much less interest in their
existence. As everyone knows, XML is being used less and less for Web
application development. But this rupture with HTML5 means that it also
seems to be failing as a mixed content technology.

Desmond Schmidt
Queensland University of Technology

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:39 AM, Humanist Discussion Group <
willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk> wrote:

>                   Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 28, No. 79.
>             Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
>                        www.digitalhumanities.org/humanist
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>         Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 14:32:51 -0400
>         From: Tommie Usdin <btusdin at mulberrytech.com>
>         Subject: "HTML5 and XML: Mending Fences" program posted
> HTML5 is taking over the Web. XML and XML-based toolsets are used to
> create, manage, interchange, and manipulate much of the content that is
> published as HTML5. XMLers and HTML5ers may each find the other more than a
> little peculiar; but it is time to get past our differences and discuss how
> our differing strengths can be combined to benefit each other, our users,
> and the information eco-system as a whole.
> The Balisage pre-conference symposium this year will bring discussion to
> Balisage of some things many of don’t like and advocates for positions many
> of us disagree with. If we are lucky it will also help two very different
> groups of people understand each other a bit better.
> Symposium description: http://www.balisage.net/HTML5-XML/index.html
> Detailed program: http://www.balisage.net/HTML5-XML/symposiumProgram.html
> The symposium program include two opportunities for participation:
> - lightning talks, and
> - a Questions and Answer session with Robin Berjon, editor of the
>   W3C HTML5 specification
> Come join the fray! Learn why some are telling us XML is a failure and
> others are rallying support for XML on the Web.
> Check out the Balisage Conference Program:
>    http://www.balisage.net/2014/Program.html
> Questions: info at balisage.net
> Registration: http://balisage.net/registration.html
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