[Humanist] 27.653 help with old software

Humanist Discussion Group willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk
Sat Dec 28 10:05:24 CET 2013


                 Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 27, No. 653.
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  [1]   From:    Michael Fraser <mike.fraser at it.ox.ac.uk>                   (6)
        Subject: RE:  27.651 help with old software?

  [2]   From:    Alexander O'Connor <Alex.OConnor at scss.tcd.ie>             (45)
        Subject: Re:  27.651 help with old software?

  [3]   From:    Norman Gray <norman at astro.gla.ac.uk>                      (15)
        Subject: Re:  27.651 help with old software?

  [4]   From:    David Berry <D.M.Berry at sussex.ac.uk>                      (53)
        Subject: Re:  27.651 help with old software?


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        Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:11:23 +0000
        From: Michael Fraser <mike.fraser at it.ox.ac.uk>
        Subject: RE:  27.651 help with old software?
        In-Reply-To: <20131227085137.58CEE61E3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Have you tried sending your request to the Idealist Google group? <https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/IdealistDB>. Assuming anyone is still listening, someone might be willing to load and export your friend's databases.

Mike

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> On 27 Dec 2013, at 08:51, Humanist Discussion Group <willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
>                 Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 27, No. 651.
>            Department of Digital Humanities, King's College London
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>                Submit to: humanist at lists.digitalhumanities.org
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>        Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2013 12:02:16 +0000
>        From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk>
>        Subject: help with old software
> 
> An old mate of mine has written to ask for help with databases created 
> in the distant past in PC software called IdeaList. He has a Windows 
> copy of IdeaList bought some 20 years ago but has lost the product key. 
> Bekon, the company who bought the software from Blackwells, has long 
> since disappeared. Would anyone here know how the databases might be 
> unlocked, or perhaps more accurately, opened up in any current software?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Yours,
> WM
> 
> -- 
> Willard McCarty (www.mccarty.org.uk/), Professor, Department of Digital
> Humanities, King's College London, and Research Group in Digital
> Humanities, University of Western Sydney

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        Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:37:50 +0000
        From: Alexander O'Connor <Alex.OConnor at scss.tcd.ie>
        Subject: Re:  27.651 help with old software?
        In-Reply-To: <20131227085137.58CEE61E3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Some links I found
http://osbloggery.blogspot.ie/2007/12/after-idealist.html?m=1
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2234465?uid=3738232&uid=2460338175&uid=2460337855&uid=2&uid=4&uid=83&uid=63&sid=21103178546377

Perhaps a virtual box or dosbox virtual machine could be used to keep the software running?

Alternately if your friend could post some simple examples of the data the coders of the list might be able to disentangle the data. 

--
Dr. Alexander O'Connor
Alex.OConnor at scss.tcd.ie


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        Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:20:12 +0000
        From: Norman Gray <norman at astro.gla.ac.uk>
        Subject: Re:  27.651 help with old software?
        In-Reply-To: <20131227085137.58CEE61E3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Willard, hello.

I don't know where your friend has looked so far, but it appears there's a Google group associated with the program at <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/IdealistDB>, and there's a ragtaggle group of lost souls lamenting in the comments at  http://osbloggery.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/after-idealist.html .  There may be some further help findable there.

The other possibility -- depending on what the goal is -- is to simply reverse-engineer the IdeaList storage format.  Depending on what it looks like inside, and what your friend wants to get from inside outside, this could be anywhere on a spectrum from an afternoon's work to orders of magnitude more.

Best wishes,

Norman

-- 
Norman Gray  :  http://nxg.me.uk
SUPA School of Physics and Astronomy, University of Glasgow, UK



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        Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:31:37 +0000
        From: David Berry <D.M.Berry at sussex.ac.uk>
        Subject: Re:  27.651 help with old software?
        In-Reply-To: <20131227085137.58CEE61E3 at digitalhumanities.org>


Hi Willard,

There is a discussion here with lots of tips in the comments.. 

http://osbloggery.blogspot.co.uk/2007/12/after-idealist.html

Best

David

---

Dr. David M. Berry
Reader

Silverstone 316

School of Media, Film and Music
University of Sussex,
Falmer, 
East Sussex. BN1 8PP

http://www.sussex.ac.uk/profiles/125219






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