[Humanist] 23.417 devices, MOOs and radio

Humanist Discussion Group willard.mccarty at mccarty.org.uk
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                 Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 23, No. 417.
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  [1]   From:    Neven Jovanovic <filologanoga at gmail.com>                  (22)
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 23.414 regeneration through radio

  [2]   From:    "Maurizio Lana" <m.lana at lett.unipmn.it>                   (31)
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 23.407 devices prior to uses?

  [3]   From:    "Cogdill, Sharon E." <SCogdill at stcloudstate.edu>           (9)
        Subject: Preservation of MOOs

        Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 15:18:39 +0100
        From: Neven Jovanovic <filologanoga at gmail.com>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 23.414 regeneration through radio
        In-Reply-To: <20091105073705.438B639D0F at woodward.joyent.us>


with less than elementary knowledge of electronics, I see not three,
but four activities in the passage you quoted (Willard also hinted at
it in choosing the title). Activity coming immediately after detection
--- in parallel with it? --- would be regeneration, i. e.
interpretation. So we select, and find meaning, and amplify it enough
--- making it the center of our research, I guess --- to be
transmitted towards other "receivers".

Now, how does it fit into institutional models and flowcharts which
seem to be the backbone of the neighbouring thread on devices and
uses? Are the four activities compartmentalized? Should they be?


> <quote>
> On 31 January 1913, Edwin H. Armstrong had notarized his diagram of the
> first regenerative circuit, an invention which was to be the basis of radio
> transmission. his discovery was that the audion (vacuum tube) could be used
> not only as a detector of electrical waves but also, through regeneration or
> feedback, as a signal amplifier. Furthermore, as a generator of continuously
> oscillating electromagnetic waves, it could be used as a transmitter.
> </quote>

        Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:31:05 +0100
        From: "Maurizio Lana" <m.lana at lett.unipmn.it>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 23.407 devices prior to uses?
        In-Reply-To: <20091102075543.CADA240708 at woodward.joyent.us>

>I'm interested in collecting a few examples of devices, [...]
>invented for one purpose but found eventually to have another. Also [...]
>those inventions whose eventual application was envisioned but which at the
>time could not be realised.

one should mention, one after the other,
    * the memex by vannevar bush (envisioned but 
not realised; an evolutionary line could go from 
mememx to NLS and ARC, to Alto and PARC, and to 
the personal computer: this way it is an 
invention invented prior to its application which 
in fact is a true and existing one )
    * the oNLineSystem by englebart (in 1968 when 
watching its presentation many thought of is as a 
fake! that is: it was light years forward by its 
times) and it never got industrially developed
    * (Xanadu was already mentioned, but the 
discussion about it and its place in the 
territory non only delimited, but also created, 
by your inquiry could go far away...)

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        Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:27:37 -0600
        From: "Cogdill, Sharon E." <SCogdill at stcloudstate.edu>
        Subject: Preservation of MOOs
        In-Reply-To: <20091102075543.CADA240708 at woodward.joyent.us>

Francois Lachance asked if we knew of any efforts to preserve MOOs, and then Matthew Kirschenbaum mentioned the Preserving Virtual Worlds project at
I forwarded Francois' original query to techrhet, a list for the computers and writing community, many members of which were very active in MUDs and MOOs at one point. The resulting conversation was interesting and tinged, I must say, with affectionate nostalgia.

Some MOOs still exist, and people still hang out in them, I think.

Michael Day, rhetorician at Northern Illinois University, has preserved MediaMOO. He says the old addresses still work.

Susan Antlitz says this in response to Michael:

------ Forwarded Message
From: Susan E Antlitz <seantlitz at seantlitz.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:16:00 -0600
To: <techrhet at interversity.org>

Subject: Re: [techrhet] FW: [Humanist] 23.400 preservation of MOOs?

Yes, and in addition, there is even a set of rooms that new users can build from (The city of New Media 'across the sea' from historic mediamoo, with a ship one can take to sail between the two). The idea is to preserve the historic parts of the MOO from long ago, but to also have a way for people to revive the MOO if they would like to.

I wonder if the original poster on the other list was referring to MOOseums, or to general attempts to continue the technology. I know there are MOOs that are still actively used, like Acadiana.

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At my asking for permission to forward their replies to humanist, Michael says:

------ Forwarded Message
From: Michael Day <mday at niu.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:03:57 -0600
To: <techrhet at interversity.org>
Subject: Re: [techrhet] FW: [Humanist] 23.404 digital preservation

Sure, fine with me.  Some years ago, the Electronic Literature Organization put out a call for digital artifacts that should be preserved, and I submitted MediaMOO.  I never received any kind of reply...  I guess all that creative energy that went into describing the Media Lab, TV studio, tunnels, and gardens doesn't qualify as literature to that group.

The original address, the Georgia Tech address, and the NIU address all still work.  In order, these are

purple-crayon.media.mit.edu 8888
mediamoo.cc.gatech.edu 8888
mediamoo.engl.niu.edu 8888

But there are a lot of MOOs still around that I still use, including Lambda, Arcadiana, Bay, and Down.  Do you want addresses for these as well?

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